How do you come to the idea that anything is hidden somewhere?

Please *read* the setup instructions and you will see, that you are asked if you want to install the toolbar ant what to do if you do not want to.

kind regards,
Philip

Something I never wanted is messing up my computer and it is your fault!!!

Yep, you can point to some obscure reference in the setup; but, the fact remains, it was your intention to put this evil program in our computer because, somehow it was good for you.

Evil!

Evil!!!

I've been happily using PDFCreator for several years and, until now, I have been happy with it. I agree with "Mr.Big", burying the "don't install this piece of crap that nobody in their right mind would want" checkbox in the middle of the install proceedure is evil. Furthermore, I DO read everything I'm asked during the install process and I do not remember being asked this question until after tracking down where the offending service came from and uninstalling PDFCreator and the crapware. Only when I re-installed PDFCreator was I asked about the crapware.

Now it is possible that I had a mental lapse and just didn't notice the buried checkbox the first time but I think it is more likely that there is a bug of some kind in the installer (because of my 0.9.8 installation?) and I just wasn't asked. I remembered (after the fact) that this has been in PDFCreator for a few versions now so I obviously managed to not install it several times previously.

What I would suggest is to set the default in the installer to NOT INSTALL. This whole thing then becomes a non-issue since anyone who installs it will have had to intentionally select it.

The checkbox is also there on the first install ;-)

PDFCreator is installed on every of the about 20PCs at work and also gets installed on every PC I set up for friends and I alwys remove the toolbar

@ Mr.Big and NOT PLEASED: As far as we know there has been no bug in the setup (and we always test that) that has hidden the checkbox or anything like that.

But as it seems clear, that you do not want the toolbar: You can simply uninstall it from the browser and it will completely uninstall itself. Maybe you will have to set the default search to google or whatever it is you prefer, but that's all.

kind regards,

Philip

Philip, I'm a long time user of this excellent product and was not prepared for what happened after upgrading to 0.9.9. I declined the Yahoo Toolbar which gets it's own Screen during the install routine. But I still ended up with Yahoo's MyBrowserBar.com in a manner which made me think I was a victim of browser HiJack Malware. I know you need support but I would rethink how this is working.  Let me detail my user experience (as this may be damaging your product reputation)

• Upgrade PDF Creator notice pops up, sure I'll do that, great software!
• I choose to NOT to install "Yahoo Toolbar"
• I continue with program defaults including "PDF Creator Browser Add on for Internet Explorer and Firefox"
• A few minutes later - I mistype a URL browsing the web
• I am redirected (HiJacked) to a URL I have never seen on my computer from a Domain I do not recognize.
• The experience is indentical to what I've seen and removed from hundreds of computers - a browser HiJack. I'm thinking... damn it finally happened to me. But How!!
• The URL is MyBrowserBar.com (this screams Malware + HiJack), as I calm down I note a "Yahoo" graphic, maybe it's "stolen" maybe not.
• I begin to search the web for what this is. It's apparently part of the Yahoo toolbar package. I've never installed anything from Yahoo!
• I search my add-remove programs thinking PDF CREATOR went ahead and installed Yahoo Toolbar. Nope, nothing there.
• I search more and include PDF Creator in the query, Ouch.
• I chose to NOT (NOT) install the Yahoo Toolbar. but yet PDFCreator installed parts of it. Not good.
• I scour my Browser add-ons and Add-Remove Programs.
• I find "pdffordge Toolbar v1.1.2 - Spigot, inc."
• PDF Toolbar installed - Yahoo's MyBrowserBar.com.
• No where in the install was this information relayed. "PDF Toolbar" means a toolbar for PDFCreator NOT a browser Hijack from a 3rd party.
• Not good.

In short my 0.9.9 ugrade experience was not a good one. Minor panic followed by lost time by the bummer thought that I've lost trust with PDF Creator, a tool I've held on high for 5+ years. Now I must uninstall and re-install and hope this "malware" like product is something I can remove and will not cause future issues or unexpected results.

As I noted I understand the need for funding (I'm assuming thats at the root of the issue) perhaps it can be done another way?

Thanks for this awesome product, please think about this and may the future be bright.

snack

Snackmaster,

In retrospect, that is probably exactly what happened to me -- including the time wasted hunting for the source of the unwanted software. Thanks for the detailed description.

Philip,

I reiterate -- to avoid future criticism from others for this issue, please change the default setting for this checkbox.

Hello,

I am sorry that the setup is a bit confusing there.

The problem is, that we want to allow the system admins out there to keep control with remote setups, which works with the component list. We are looking for away to make this more obvious to the user.

kind regards,
Philip

I have used PDFCreator for quite some time, and suddenly find this MyBrowserbar installed for the first time after recently upgrading.  I always deselect the installation of the bar, and I'm fairly certain that the installation completely ignored my wishes this time.

The setup is mildly confusing but the issue is that the user or admin is not aware of the hidden install item MyBrowserBar until after they install or they find the component in an MSI editor prior to rolling out to however many computers. Google "MyBrowserBar" for how people feel about it.

Glad to help, in addition to not being the default a description is needed that includes MyBrowserBar - as that type of "software" is the last thing anyone excepts from PDFCreator.

Defaults from an upstanding software vendor should be needed useful functionality with optional "junk" (I would call this borderline to actual Malware) that is not needed as an option.

McAfee Virus Scan Enterprise 8.7 (EPO 4.5) identifies the Toolbar as a PUP - "Widgi Toolbar". http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_251552.htm

http://i.imgur.com/nJaXz.png

It is shown as "potential unwanted program", so the scan is correct. Some people do not want the toolbar, but some use it, because at least the "save as pdf" icon is useful sometimes. The user has to decide if he wants the toolbar or not.

@andr_gin

"The user has to decide if he wants the toolbar or not."

The user is not aware that the  "PDFForge Toolbar" installs MyBrowserBar nor that it installs the associated changes in borwser behavior from MBB and Yahoo.

The user becomes aware only when notified by AV sofware or by determining that unwanted changes to their system happened after installing PDFCreator. The end result is not exactly the kind of publicity anyone should want nor dismiss as casually as is happening here.

A "PDF Toolbar" should be a PDF Toolbar, if it is more and is of questionable content then PDFForge must warn the installer - if they don't then the community which has supported PDFForge and PDFCreator will search for a reputible software developer.

Hello,

you say, that the user has to be warned and that he is not aware what the toolbar does.

A kind user has done these screenshots showing the installer and describing what the user has to do if he does not want the toolbar:

http://img211.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89686_pdfcreator_toolbar1_122...

http://img154.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=89689_pdfcreator_toolbar2_122...

So there is this bold font in captial letters saying "IMPORTANT:", telling, how the user can deselect the toolbar.

Regarding the "potentially unwanted software": This is something not really specific, as it also includes little games and everything a company would not want their people to spend time with.

kind regards,
Philip

The user is not aware that the  "PDFForge Toolbar" installs MyBrowserBar, the Search Settings BHO nor that it installs the associated changes in browser behavior from MBB and Yahoo.

If the above doesn't bother then we know all we need to know.

Per the screenshots - perhaps add text and a sub option to the PDFForge toolbar

- MyBrowserBar search engine component (with description)

Ok, here's the deal.  A few months ago I began to get a window that acts like a 404 ?? window.  "Not Found"  but I see the page I want and then mybrower... comes up blocking me from seeing the page I want.  I go on line to find out what is going on and I am led here.  With you guys defending your little unwanted program and blaming us for not reading correctly.  So somewhere it said to delete the Mybrowser thing and your program as will.  So I did that and while your pdf program is gone, the mybrowser page randomly continues.  It is not in add remove program, and not in the regester and not in Firefox plugins.  And yet it is still there.  Of course I can't make it come back because I didn't write down when it appeared.

So here's the question, how do I know make it go away?

Please help

Thanks

David Rhoades

Sonora CA

Habe pdfforge (trotz den paar Macken) lange benutzt, danke dafür!

Eine Browserbar unterzuscheieben ist aber nun das Letzte!

pdfforge wird deinstalliert
alles gute für die Zukunft

Wer weiss die besten Alternativen?

Hello,

it is very easy to uninstall the Toolbar: Select Help -> Uninstall from the Toolbar menu and it will instantly do so.

kind regards,
Philip

I think that the message is clear: the addition af such a feature is really bad and the obviousness of installing it by default is the worst. It unfortunately indicates that people like Philip lost track in their ways to generate money with their product, where this product in itself is quite fine, but looses affinity by this way of misleading the users. It is commonly seen that in the first place the maker is trying to defend the annoying facts, not realising that insulting the customer by this action is always the worst you can do. Only the wise draw their conclusions, apologise for underestimating the effect and decide the only positive thing to do, switching off the default option immediately. It is the art of respectful businessship.

Wishing you a good recovery!

Rommelkont

Hello - I registered JUST to comment on this matter. I am not a technical person, just an average end user. I am also an educator and I have been recommending PDFcreator to my college-level students for years.

I thnk this is a great product and would not mind paying a nominal fee for it.  The early bugs seem of have been worked out (I don't have to actually have PDFC running in order to print something).

But I think you, the good and smart designers really need to consider what we users are saying:  We love the product, we hate the intrusive search engine that piggiebacks on top of it.  Like many,   I must have overlooked the toogle that lets me say "no" to the install.  DEFAULTING to intstall of an add-on is creepy.  It's like when you buy something from an on-line store and they start sending you spam because they claim you ASKED for the mail by NOT unchecking a box.

I am going to go out on a limb here:  NO PDFCreator wants the search bar.  And I certainly don't want my google keyword settings changed.  If MyBrowser was such a great program, why would it need to be snuck in on users in this matter? OR, to put  it another way, aren't you generating negative opinions of MyBrowser by doing business this way?  Maybe it's a great product, but I will never know because it  has been the source of annoyance.

As I said, I would rather pay a nominal fee for service than have to worry about this matter.  Please consider other sources to drive revenue for your project.

Same here.

It's a simple fact that vendors must respect that clients and customers must never be opted in without their expicit consent.

Either a customer deliberately chooses to install something, or else it doesn't install.

Anything else is underhanded and no explanation excuses it.

Your screenshots only verify that you are doing things that you shouldn't.

I was having the same problem with the "mybrowserbar.com" hijack that's mentioned here. When I searched for info on the Web, this was one of the places that popped up. Only problem was, I don't use PDFCreator. So I looked at some of the other software I'd installed recently, and bingo - YouTube Downloader has the same deal going on, including the somewhat misleading option of installing the "YouTube Downloader Toolbar" complete with the mybrowserbar.com component.

You can even download the toolbar itself without downloading the entire program:

youtubedownloader.mybrowserbar.com/download.html

<<it is very easy to uninstall the Toolbar: Select Help -> Uninstall from the Toolbar menu and it will instantly do so.
kind regards, Philip>>

but please DON'T INSTALL at default. the bar installs even if I uncheck in the setup.
please change the defalt to "not" and of course do not install then.

Hello,

they do *not* install themselves when you have deselected them. Somewhere above there are two screenshots showing detailed instructions. You have to read the bold text starting with the words "IMPORTANT" and follow it's instructions (deselect it in the program components list).

kind regards,
Philip

Hi Philip,

Just to inform you; I have the feeling the browser toolbar actually DOES install itself even though I cleared the checkbox during the installation.

Lucky for me I block all URL's on my firewall except the onces I really trust (and  http://download.mybrowserbar.com/vkits/dlv1/302398/pdfforgeToolbar.msi is NOT one of them).

So to make things clear; I did uncheck the checkbox for the browser plugin and still the application tries to download the toolbar!

Edit; I totally missed the second uncheck mark during the installation. I did a reinstall and now (after clearing the checkbox both times) now download attempt is made.

I'd just like to echo the sentiments of those above.

I was evaluating this software for a potential client, and was very impressed by what I had read. This was to be installed on a server, so had to be a very clean and non-intrusive installation.

I downloaded the product, and intended to install just the Drivers and essential components. The option to install the additional toolbar sounds like it is a feature of the product, and not an additional product, so I installed this, and have had my browser hijacked. It has taken me a week to discover that the browser hijack was as a result of this software.

This is a significant error on your part, and it should be made VERY clear that this toolbar is not part of your product.

I just found this site from Sourceforge, came here, downloaded  the  exe, then created an account and started reading the forum, then saw this thread about mytoolbar...

I googled the  Mytoolbar, here is a typical find:

http://www.dr5.org/how-to-remove-urlseek20-vmn-net-and-the-mybrowserbar-...

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Also it looks like pdfcreator is getting unjustly blamed for  the toolbar even when it is installed by some other program, at least sometimes when they google mytoolbar and  get pdfcreator, like here for example:

http://www.enghiong.com/remove-mybrowserbar-from-my-browser.html

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And then I saw this on techsupport.com

http://www.techsupportforum.com/security-center/virus-trojan-spyware-hel...

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I downloaded the .exe before I found this thread, haven't installed it yet,  but may  build it from source instead.

 I sincerely hope that pdf creator isnt hurt too badly by all the bad publicity because of  the tool bar.

Ist die PDFCreator Toolbar Spyware?
(the title of a page of this website)

Philip is telling us in #16 with two links to some screenshots:
"IMPORTANT: If you don't want to install ... unselect it on the next screen."

Please, folks, do not beat about the bush, what kind of installation routine is this????

Yahoo is NO part of PDFCreator - it can be unselected on a separate screen just in time when it is mentioned, NOT "on the next screen" - and MyBrowserBar isn't part of PDFCreator also. So why is it listed as a component with all the other components of PDFCreator??? 

We all know why, just to let the user forget the unchecking!!! That's all.
Also thereby this "toolbar" is spyware from SPIGOT and nothing else.

Read that kind of "licence agreement " pdfforge offers us when installing PDFCreator:

… somewhere in the middle of the very long text…:

pdfforge Toolbar

...
By installing the Toolbar on your computer, you expressly authorize and request Spigot to:

a) act as your search agent to conduct inquiries on your behalf using Spigot's search engine and technologies and partners' sites, and collect relevant information and display it to you;

b) take actions Spigot deems appropriate to provide the Toolbar to you and to act on your behalf in obtaining information from partners and displaying that to you;

c) read and interpret your search requests and results on certain sites and use this information to conduct searches on your behalf, offer alternative results and to personalize The Toolbar for you;

d) collect information in accordance with our privacy policy;

e) start the Toolbar automatically when you start your computer, and to appear as a toolbar in your Microsoft Internet Explorer and/or Mozilla Firefox browser. You may change how the Toolbar starts and appears using the respective application options;

f) modify your Microsoft Internet Explorer and/or Mozilla Firefox browser settings for the default search engine, address bar search, "DNS error" page, "404 error" page, and new tab page to facilitate more informative responses as determined by The Toolbar;

g)communicate with Spigot servers from time to time to check for available software updates such as bug fixes, patches, enhanced functions and new versions (collectively, "Updates"). By installing The Toolbar, you agree to automatically request and receive Updates.

Let us notice: PDF: Portable Document Format

So what kind of "component" please is this toolbar????????

It is spyware from SPIGOT for advertising, installed by a trick, read this very long thread and no doubt is left.

Don't tell us about options to deselect anything anywhere...
All show and no substance

You are paid by these "partners" and they are interested in these installation tricks!

SPIGOT means "Zapfhahn" and that is "MyBrowserBar".

Dear PDFCreator-Team, what are you telling us about obvious things and what do YOU think about us users. Being paid for a lot of very good work mustn't be a problem but thinking about users they are boneheaded …

Faugh!

Just deselect the installation of this "Add-ON" and install PDFCreator as usual.
After a Restart watch your running Services / Task Manager and search for these files / directories / registry keys for "application updater" (here Windows 7 x64):

C:\Program Files (x86)\Application Updater\ApplicationUpdater.exe

1.          HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\Folders

2.          HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Components\ED1CAE30F47D14B41B5FC8FA53658044

3.          HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Application Updater

4.          HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SharedDLLs

5.          HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\services\Application Updater

6.          HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\services\Application Updater

The config.ini of this running "ApplicationUpdater.exe":

[WidgiToolbar]
PartnerName=Application Updater
PartnerNameSafe=applicationupdater

The details-tab of this running "ApplicationUpdater.exe":

Copyright (c) 2005-2010 Spigot, Inc.

PDFCreator is malware right before PdfCreator version 1.0,
MalWare/SpyWare by SpyGod or Spigot or whatever.

I learned to hate this PDF tool just because of all the work to find out what changed my rediretion in my browsers, my search confuguriation, my directories, services, registry ... without asking me or even though I didn't want it and because of all these lies about this on this web page.

03/29/2010...

I just installed pdfcreator and it did not install any additional software on my machine.  Granted I was reading some of these posts and I did as Philip shows in the two screen grabs.

I believe the issue is why the need to uncheck the second time.  The second option is much more vague and would have appeared to be like an in browser pdf plugin....which it might not be...since I didn't click it to install it.

I think this is a case of misdirected blame and people not wanting to own up to their mistake, even if it was somewhat vague.  The MyBrowserBar may suck, but you chose to install it...whether by mistake or not paying attention, it is what it is.

I came by pdfcreator because I was hoping to find some type of software, that would allow me to "print all" files in a folder, specifically .eml files exported from Windows Live Mail (or from within Windows Live Mail itself).  So far, I haven't been able to find anything or anything that makes it really really really easy.  I believe I can from pdfcreator by using the "wait/collect" option, but I have to actually open up and "print" each email/.eml right?  507 emails and I would guess this is nothing compared to most.  :)

EDIT: just figured it out, I could select all and collect/wait from within outlook 2007, have it run then print as a combined pdf.  I figure breaking it up into groups is better because pdfcreator jumbles the orders a few times so the smaller number the better.

I gotta say.... I'm REALLY DISAPPOINTED by the 'official' responses here by PDFForge people.

Why?

I'm a web developer and computer technician that has worked on literally hundreds of machines. I make it a regular habit of installing PDFCreator for my clients. I have talked it up and convinced people why PDFCreator is such a great piece of software.

Today and from now on until either PDF Forge comes to their senses and changes their approach OR eliminates this 'helper' altogether, I will not install for myself or any client this software. In fact, I'm inclined to email all of them warning them NOT to 'upgrade' to the existing version as it has adware.

If PDFForge doesn't understand why people are so upset... then, my guess, is that all hope is gone that they will ever reverse course on this horrific approach. They are trying to create a revenue stream by deception and I believe 100% that it will be an utter failure in the end.

The simple solution is to make the default installation setting NOT INSTALL the 'helper'.  Only IF a person chooses within the context of a conscious decision process that they want the 'helper' by checking an UNCHECKED BOX should this 'helper' be installed.

The only logical reason the 'helper' is installed in the way it currently is...  is to NOT ALERT IN ANY OBVIOUS WAY so as to create a large install base 'quickly' as opposed to 'ethically' by user choice.

MY PLEA TO PDFForge:  REVERSE COURSE IMMEDIATELY!!!

Else this project will go the way of BonziBUDDY.

Please DON'T use condescending language in your posts telling your users they simply aren't 'getting it'.  They GET IT!!!  They JUST DON'T WANT IT!!!

I admit, in my case I installed the toolbar. I thought I was installing a PDF Creator toolbar, NO more, NO less. What it actually installed, without my knowing, is a search engine hijack. I have been using PDF creator for a few years now and have personally installed it on over 200 machines in multiple commercial companies and numerous residential installations. As of about 10 minutes ago, when I discovered how MBB got installed on my computer I am no longer installing this anywhere. I am PISSED!

In probably 80% of the installations I could have probably convinced the customer to agree to pay a small fee for the software after using it for a while and seeing the benefits. This would have been a much better solution then adding this deceptive "Component" to your software.

I am additionally quite mad since this has hurt my credibility with one of my clients. I recommended software that caused problems. I trusted PDF creator due to my past experience. I did not plan on getting stabbed in the back by a program I trusted.

Immediately change the description and name of the toolbar. I personally don't care, as much, if the default is to install or not since I can select what to install. BUT if I choose a toolbar, and get a search engine change, that is a deceptive practice by PDF creator's author.

I will look for a replacement for PDF Creator later this weekend. Later this month I am rolling out a New Desktop Upgrade project for much of the company I currently work for and PDF Creator, will be removed from the new software image prior to that rollout and replaced with an honest product, even if I have to pay a couple of extra bucks per machine.

Shame on you!!!

I loved this nice tool which saved my time - but now I have to invest time to search for a solution to get rid of it completely.

If you want to earn money, change your license - but PLEASE don't create such a piece of software which hijacks computers.

And NO - I DIDN'T choose to install the toolbar - but IT DID!

You may test as much as you want, but when other people tell you there is something wrong - simply believe it! But you'll see when computer magazines will warn not to install your software etc...

I hope you'll learn before it's too late - I won't install your software anymore...

I registered just so I could comment on this thread.  I am also a college educator who has recommended your product for years.  I also work at a large hospital system in IT.  I am terribly disappointed in your decision to include a toolbar in your otherwise outstanding product.

I will no longer be using or recommending your product because of the inclusion of this unnecessary toolbar.  It would be irresponsible of me to knowingly recommend a product that includes spyware or otherwise deceptive components (even though they are in your installer documentation and eula).

Can anyone in this forum recommend a suitable replacement?

MyBrowserBar gives you Yahoo! search results when searching the Web from your Toolbar. To learn more about your Toolbar including Help topics, click the Options menu to the right of the search box.add url

I agree, this mysearchbar crapware is evil.

I agree, it wasted my time too, trying to track down the source and being surprised at it. I agree, I registered here also, just to post this protest. I will look for another pdf utility now. 

What were you thinking? Don't you know that searchbar tools that change browser settings are rightly considered MALWARE? Why include malware in your otherwise fine software? Sheeesh!

Paul.

First of all, I was cheated by this installation.

I'm pretty sure I unchecked the "INTALL CRAPBAR". I always do. Still, crapbar was installed without my consent. Willingly or not, that is my definition of MALWARE:

Second, if anyone can help me?

I uninstalled crapbar. Everything went well, and no more toolbar on my browser, except that any 404 error pages is still getting redirected to mybrowserbar.

I uninstalled PDF Creator too.

I don't have pdfcreator or pdfforgecrapabar installed anymore. I still get mywbrowserbar annoying redirection on firefox.

And Please PDFFORGE team, don't blame the users or their systems. Crapbar is installing on people systems withour their knowledge.

Lame 1999 trick, that should have never been done. I really hope at least you are making a whole lot of money out of our annoyance.

You sneaky, sneaky bastards, all of you.

I unchecked the Yahoo bar during installation. So how is it you still managed to stuff it in there and take over my address bar default search (despite my best attempts to set it back in about:config)?

You guys are either stupid, or malicious.

Edit: For people looking for a free PDF writer that won't dupe you into padding their bottom line by bundling the Yahoo toolbar against your will, try: www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp

P.S. Bastards.

Why does this still show "potential unwanted program" even in Windows 7. Most people do not want the toolbar, but there are still some that use it, thyroid treatment because at least the "save as pdf" icon is useful sometimes. The user has to decide if he wants the toolbar or not.

Totally agree with you! As I understood there is no way to install without toolbar appearing ;) So, it is a must and we should use it?! If so, why not to tell this before the user will set up it?!

Jose G

 I am also unhappy with this "mybrowserbar" deal. As others have stated, it is deceptive and causes unwanted behavior (automatically changing search settings each time IE is started, redirecting DNS errors, etc, all of which are typical malware behavior).

I didn't notice at first since I usually don't use IE, but recently needed it for a browser-specific application. I'm sorry to say that due to the inclusion of this little "extra", that I've now switched away from pdfforge in favor of a leaner, more user-friendly open source competitor.

I realize that bundling 3rd party stuff like this generates a little ad revenue, but it also alienates customers and makes savvy people lose trust in software like pdfforge. As I mentioned, the mybrowserbar plugin BEHAVES like malware, even if it isn't exactly malware, and thus tarnishes the image of anything it's associated with. 

Excellent idea! I was thinking about this today while completing some of my projects (otimização de sites, desentupidora, iluminação, acompanhantes sp, transportadora, controle de acesso, ortodontista sp). Count me too, do the same and certainly begin to warn my friends and acquaintances as well.

I loved this nice tool which saved my time - but now I have to invest time to search for a solution to get rid of it completely.

If you want to earn money, change your license - but PLEASE don't create such a piece of software which hijacks computers.

And NO - I DIDN'T choose to install the toolbar - but IT DID!

You may test as much as you want, but when other people tell you there is something wrong - simply believe it! But you'll see when computer magazines will warn not to install your software etc...

I hope you'll learn before it's too late - I won't install your software anymore...

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I can fully confirm the findings of my preposters:

although installing of yahoo-toolbar was deselected other crazy things were installed, no other install/no-install-options were displayed.

This is what NOD32 Antivirus-Software did during installation ( deletion, put in quarantine or blocked access)

 C:\Programme\pdfforge Toolbar\IE\1.1.2\pdfforgeToolbarIE.dll    Win32/Adware.Toolbar.Dealio C:\Programme\pdfforge Toolbar\WidgiHelper.exe    Win32/Adware.Toolbar.Dealio 
C:\Programme\pdfforge Toolbar\SearchSettingsRes409.dll    Win32/Adware.Toolbar.Dealio
C:\Programme\pdfforge Toolbar\SearchSettings.exe    Win32/Adware.Toolbar.Dealio
 http://download.mybrowserbar.com/vkits/dlv1/302398/pdfforgeToolbar.msi    Win32/Adware.Toolbar.Dealio

I am also very 'p... off', that a real good software piece went down the drain that way. Keeping my customers away from questionable software is my day to day business, i never thought to get hit myself. Manual deinstallation of unwanted pieces is not a solution.

@Philip Post 27

"Somewhere above there are two screenshots showing detailed instructions."

How about on the download page saying hey there is this hijack thing, that I have masked. You'll find these two screenshots referenced soon enough when you are upset because I didn't tell you about mybrowserbar. I said yahoo search....

I am sorry, it may display yahoo search results, but it is not yahoo!

In fact, its a redirector not just showing you search results.

Jeg er zu 100% zustimmen es ist eine große arbejdsplads Holde op speichern arbejde die wunderbare Informationen I love this site halten, die gute Arbeit! ;

Why is SourceForge still hosting this project ???

With such a malware/virus/trojan/worm-like behaviour toolbar ,  PDF Creator has unfortunately moved towards a carrier to install unneeded crapware on the user computer without his consent. I really don't like software that installs things* I didn't asked for. TO THE DEVELOPER: If you want to earn money, you would get much less angry users by providing a "PDF Creator extended" version for $4.99 , and of course, provide all PDF Creator versions without this "toolbar".

*malware

I registered just to express my displeasure. Nobody reads set up instructions, especially for fairly small programs like PDFCreator. Like, I guess, many people, I assumed that the pdfforge toolbar was what it implies it is, a way of creating PDFs from web pages, not some evil attempt to hijack my browsing. So I let it install. Nowhere does it say "please install this evil crap on my PC to cause confusion and distrust". OK, I should have been more careful, but I trusted you guys and you let me down.